Evil Genius

It's not so bad, but it's just a fan service episode.

Does anyone agree with me that the reason that Raditz says that planet Vegeta was blown up only three years previously to the start of DBZ is because he was misinformed? And Raditz was probably not mentioned in the Bardock tv special because he was only Goku's half brother by his mother. There are like three different stories as to how planet Vegeta blew up, and of course the official one is that Frieza did it. Raditz's version is completely wrong, and then there's the one the previous guardian (or Kami) told the guys, which is also wrong, but kind of right because the reason that Freiza could make the Saiyans his slaves was because they were a decrepid society.

I don't remember anything, I didn't even know about those 3 stories.

I'll see if my brother-in-law will lend me the series so I can watch them all from start to finish.

I know that these are all plot and filler mistakes, but I still like to try to connect them anyhow . I still think that Bardock could have been a scientist, why not? Maybe one of Freiza's goons demoted him or something, that's totally possible. He was pretty old by the tv special.

That was a filler translation error, where they don't translate stuff so that they can add random made up shit.

Yeah, and doing so fucks a lot of things up along the way. But I still like the idea of Goku's father being a scientist and that type of intelligence skipping a generation, then showing through in his son. Though, that's more due to Chi chi's constant nagging to do his homework.

Because the dragonballs being used too much created the evil dragons and are now gone on Earth any sequel after GT can't be called Dragonball can it? And any other sequel would have to be based really far in the future because right now Vegeta is basically the strongest person in the known universe, and Goku has basically poofed away with the eternal dragon. I know they already did that tv special with Pan's grandson and everything, but it would be cool if it were one of Vegeta's progeny even further in the future than that going through something like Goku did when he was little, and then finding masters, and one of them could be Goku Jr. Just a thought. Though the best thing with the series right now would be for them to do movies or tv specials that are origin things, like the history of mirai no Trunks. Like a special on how Vegeta grew up, that'd be worth watching.

Also about the dragonballs being pent up with all that negative energy from making too many good wishes, maybe something like that happened to Namek and that was the disaster that virtually destroyed the planet when Kami was a baby.

DrPepperPro wrote:Uhh I'm pretty sure he wished for panties, and that's what he got.

He wished for the softest underwear in the universe for himself. Anyway, I really have never talked about dbz or db in the forums before, why start now? Well here it goes, dbz, in general, for most is something they can remember the innocence of their childhood with really. The show when I was growing up was something to watch, before I even knew what anime was. Most likely if I'd never watched dbz, I'd be as boring as most adults are today. It was a show that like Starnum said everybody watched back in the day, I believe not one person doesn't know what it is. It's the most famous anime to ever hit the world over, and it should be something, imo, to be honored, as most of you wouldn't watch anime either without it. There are exceptions to those though.

In jap he just plain said he want's "girl's panties." What you said sounds familiar though, so I guess that's from the english dub.

I personally started my anime watching way before I watched DBZ: Sailor Moon , My Neighbour Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service when I was 7 (1996); and Ninja Scroll, Macross Plus, The Wings of Honneamese, Galaxy Express 999, Venus Wars, Patlabor (still boring as hell by the way when I watch it now) and Gods (which I still can't find) when I was 9 (1998). DBZ came on when I was 10, and then Pokemon when I was 11. Considering this was all on TV, I was pretty indentured into the whole anime thing well before I was exposed to DBZ. Like I said before, I still like DBZ to this day because of the same reasons I like Starwars and FFX, aliens and time travel. I first saw Berserk at 14 (man I can't believe it's been 6 years, but then again I first saw it on VHS).

This all brings up a pretty interesting question though: what was your first anime?

DrPepperPro wrote:In jap he just plain said he want's "girl's panties." What you said sounds familiar though, so I guess that's from the english dub.

LULZ? I guess you're talking about Oolongs wish from the dragon in the old dragonball?

In the german version he wishes for "A nice cap with 2 holes in it to stick the ears through" and that is what he gets, somehow
The panties land on his head just like a nice cap with 2 holes in it. I thought that scene was hilarious as a kid.

Oolong was awesome in any dub I presume

Aetherfukz wrote:"A nice cap with 2 holes in it to stick the ears through"

Ha ha ha! Just out of curiosity, did they censure or remove any of the nude scenes in DBZ over there in Germany? To anyone who hasn't seen them, they're pretty benign and consist mostly of Goku losing his clothes as joke.

yeah, mostly stuff when he was peeing or using his tail to fish or something. i noticed that when i was younger, and i was like who gives a rat's ass that we see gohan's butt when he's fallen on top of vegeta? NOBODY that's who!

War Machine wrote:

Aetherfukz wrote:"A nice cap with 2 holes in it to stick the ears through"

Ha ha ha! Just out of curiosity, did they censure or remove any of the nude scenes in DBZ over there in Germany? To anyone who hasn't seen them, they're pretty benign and consist mostly of Goku losing his clothes as joke.

Nah nothing of the nudity was censored in german television. We saw lots of Gokus little thing dangling around. Nudity never was an issue in german television, only violence was, and is still to an extent.

Edit: To this day I still find it funnier when Oolong wishes for "a nice cap with 2 holes in it to stick the ears through" and gets panties, than if he simply wishes for panties and gets them

I always thought it was odd, all of this editing and whatnot. In our original edit in Canada we saw Krillin get stapped through with Frieza's horn, but apparently that didn't happen in the American tv edit (or so I heard).

The Herald wrote:I always thought it was odd, all of this editing and whatnot. In our original edit in Canada we saw Krillin get stapped through with Frieza's horn, but apparently that didn't happen in the American tv edit (or so I heard).

Well on the second run of DBZ in german television, they suddenly, somehow, thought "Oh Em Gee, this is all so bloody!" and censored the shit out of it. Note that it was perfectly fine on the first airing run though?!

Like when Goku and Piccolo fight Radditz, Goku gets a huge hole in his chest from Piccolos Makkankosappo (spelling?) and dies shortly after from it. Now in the second airing, they fucking edited out the hole in his chest! So now he suddenly dies with his chest and suit fully intact, probably because of a heart attack or something - the viewer wouldn't know hadn't he seen the uncensored version.

You guys must watch this, it's too funny. I'm sure you're aware of it, but I didn't see it posted anywhere, so here you go. The voice acting in this is amazing, just as good at the official release. Plus, if you listen closely, our old pal hbi2k makes some appearances. I enjoyed that.

Yeah, they just finished the Vegita saga and are taking some free time away from the DBZ Abridged series for now, but they seem very interested in continuing them. They're really good, I like them.

Has anyone seriously watched DBZKai? It's not very good. There's tons of continuity errors and dead air. I'm only about 20 episodes in, but still, it's wierd.

Rewatching DBZ, just finished the cell saga. Much as I enjoyed DBZ originally, I don't think I'd be able to get through it without fast forward. Seriously, there's way too much staring and grunting. Oh my god the grunting. At some point I actually started to grunt with them and it went from annoying to hilarious.

Things I like:
Saiyan insults. Raditz and Vegita own everyone verbally.
Fighting is pretty awesome, even if it does get ridiculous.

Oh, and I got to thinking earlier after telling Yamcha to shut up for the 100th time (yea, I yell at my screen). By my reckoning, Yajirobe has actually been more useful than Yamcha.
Yamcha's achievements: Get sploded by a saibaman; kinda help against cell in the end I guess
Yajirobe's achievements: Cut off Vegeta's tail, making that fight winnable

But yea, all in all I love DBZ.

DBZ is timeless to me. Its the first anime I ever got into. Everything before the Buu saga I love. The only thing good to come out of that was Majiin Vegeta.