Evil Genius

It paved the way for other animes like Naruto, One Piece and Bleach, but in my opinion, none of them even come close to DBZ.

Good ol Dragonball series.

Some people say that it's only good because it reminds them of their childhood, but I can't think of any other popular kids show from when DBZ was around, that can later be looked back on and actually liked for reasons that go beyond childhood reminiscence.

Yeah, I am one of those mean bastards who wont accept the fact that DBZ is awesome.
I liked it back in the day. It was teh shit! Everyone would spend the first two hours at school talking about the episode that had been aired the previous day.
Those were good times.
But, at some point, I started to think: "man, the fight just drags on and on, without anything important happening". "Another unbeatable enemy that gets defeated because of some secret superpower the main character suddenly realized he had?"

You get the idea.

I realized some things just didn't make any sense. And, at some point, I stopped liking it.

A few years passed. Then the rebound came. Everyone was watching it again, but: "What if they had never watched it on first grade? They would all just say: "this is stupid" and change the channel."
They didn't really like DBZ anymore, it was just a way to bring back childhood memories.

I personally don't like it. Its still fun to watch some loose episodes, but the series as a whole is not my kind of thing.

Ironically, I DO like One Piece, which is as nonsensical as DBZ (probably even more). May be its because there is something about the art style of One Piece that says "don't take me too seriously" that DBZ lacks.

Starnum, at first I thought you were one of those fake fans. Seeing how much you are willing to write in defense of DBZ, I realize I misjudged you.
Sorry if my comments offended you on any level.

For a wild moment I thought someone made a thread to praise the up and coming live action DBZ.

I was never into it much when I was younger as I always caught it midway through some epic confrontation, and of course would have no idea what was going on. I've now come to enjoy it in recent years, both the manga and anime. It fits more on the mindless fun spectrum of things, like so many of life's greatest pleasures often do.

But wasn't there some catch to the wishes? Like you can only be rezzed once? I vaguely remember Goku not being able to be wished back because they have already used that wish once, so he fought his way back or something like that? When he was SSJ3 he definately couldn't come back via wishing I think?

Also, IMHO, the old Dragonball was way better than DBZ. The epic fight of (teen) Goku vs Piccolo at the last tournament was... well... epic.
And it was much funnier, with all the strange bad guys like the little Prince and his 2 idiot henchmen, and my absolute favorite scene: When the little prince (forgot his name) summoned Shenlong and before he could make his wish, Oolong jumped in and wished for a Hat with 2 holes in it for his ears. And then a panty slip drops from the sky onto his head.

Uhh I'm pretty sure he wished for panties, and that's what he got.

Aetherfukz wrote:But wasn't there some catch to the wishes? Like you can only be rezzed once? I vaguely remember Goku not being able to be wished back because they have already used that wish once, so he fought his way back or something like that? When he was SSJ3 he definately couldn't come back via wishing I think?

If they wanted to wish Goku back, all they'd have to do is go to New Namek and ask Parunga. He can bring people back as many times as you want. Goku didn't want to be wished back, is the thing. They were all ready to go to New Namek and wish him back, but he chose to stay in the otherworld to help protect Earth, because he felt that all the bad guys attacked Earth to get to him, and in a lot of the cases in DBZ that was true. When Goku came back to Earth for the Tenkaichi Budokai during the Buu Saga, he was on borrowed time, and when he went SSJ3 it drained his remaining time on Earth. I've been watching DBZ lately, so it's all fresh on my mind. It's my wife's first watch-through of the series, and we've made it up to Vegetto, so we're almost done with the series.

I just found this, not sure how old it is:

Dragonball RN
http://dragonballrn.com/viewer2.html

It's a fan comic that continues after GT. Mainly it tries to be funny and is a kind of parody of Dragonball, but there is a plot too.

What is this, GT, you speak of?

Starnum wrote:What is this, GT, you speak of?

GT = Grand Turd.

How the hell did I get here, editing out.

Aetherfukz wrote:

Starnum wrote:What is this, GT, you speak of?

GT = Grand Turd.

Yessim

Starnum wrote:

Aetherfukz wrote:

Starnum wrote:What is this, GT, you speak of?

GT = Grand Turd.

Yessim

GT is blasphemy and garbage on so many levels. If you're an elitist you believe anything after frieza was moot, since that's when dude planned to stop doing the series, but I believe up until the end of cell the series still had potential, it was afterward that it became garbage, and GT was just the pinnacle of the shit tower that DBZ had turned into. And they're thinking of doing a new DBZ, what is that AF? I think so.

AF = april fools

Go GT!!!....1

Ya it was originally an april fools joke, but it's still tricking people like 10 years later.

I like the ending of GT more than the DBZ's. And how it's more similar in some ways to Dragonball than DBZ is. There are a lot of bad points though, like you said the fighting is bad most of the time. Also, even in the japanese version, the music is just not as good as in DB and DBZ. There's a few good bg songs I remember that are good, but compared to DB and DBZ where almost always it's good, its lacking for sure.

Starnum wrote:...Krillin only dies like, twice, right? In all of DBZ, I can't remember him dying more than that. Though technically that would mean he's died at least three times.

Technically Krillin dies that one more time in DBGT when Bebi kills everybody. But then everybody dies. I like how in DBGT they end off the whole apparent awesomeness of the whole dragonball trick by having all of that negative energy pent up and create those evil dragons. About the only thing I liked about DBGT. But that great great grandson character after DBGT, he was kinda dumb. Anyays, this isn't DBZ, its DBGT. As for DBZ, I kinda wish they had a little more about the whole Bulma and Vegeta getting together, that was never explained well enough I thought.

Artezul wrote:For a wild moment I thought someone made a thread to praise the up and coming live action DBZ.

That movie looks so wrong, but I must see it anyways. It's like they mixed Goku's early childhood with his teenage years, and Gohan's teenage years. At least the actors for Goku and Bulma aren't crazy old for their parts, but the dude who plays Yamcha is 39, and a ladies man, which Yamcha does become by DBZ, but in DB he was scared of chicks. And Master Roshi's hut is in the middle of a city, like what the hell? Plus the trailer and man it looks so silly. I know it's a real one, but it looks like that fake Zelda movie trailer IGN released last year. Still looking forward to it though.

When I was younger I had a lot of problems with bullies, but Dragonball Z came on right at the beginning of the problems and was always there (YTV, the Canadian station that aired it had it on an odd loop) all the way up until I changed schools in high school. Everybody says that Dragonball Z is generally liked because they enjoyed it when they were children and it was nostalgic, but it was more for me, because whenever something bad happened I just tried to be like Goku and get above the problem.