Ch 251

[Eldo]

Serpico will almost certainly stick with her.

Yeah, I agree. You can see Serpico back in 'Herald' clothes at the end of the chapter. He's definitely escorting her. As for his disappointment, I don't think it's because they'll leaving the party, but rather Farnese's actions (after agreeing to Manifico's condition). That condition might be marriage because there was nothing else that a woman could do in that era. She couldn't go back to the Holy Chains. And because she wanted to please her father, she could be used as a puppet by Manifico if there was indeed a conspiracy to overthrow the father. I'm not sure how a marriage would be beneficial to the brother in anyway, that's why I proposed a sinister plot behind it.

[Arresty]

It could be arranged with another powerful family, and with the brother helping arrange it he may be able to get something from that family that gives him a one up on his father. But whatever it is I believe he is using her somehow to either gain favor, or steal power from thier father.

[Trant]

What will the brother gain by marriage with his sister?

Its not like he can gain power that way.

Yeah, the more I think about it the less likely I think that he wants to marry his sister. I think I just based it on that perverted look in his eye (much like the look Starnum gets whenever he sees "Ivalera" )

But, assuming Farnese is the only daughter in the family, there is surely some way for Manifico to benefit from having her on his side while (we can only assume) the power struggle among the three legitimate sons continues.

And after re-reading the chapter, the brother definitely seems to be focusing on their father during the conversation. If he's asking her to assassinate their father, why choose someone in the family? Hoping she will remain loyal to him? Can Farnese really get closer to the head of the family compared to other people? (They seemed rather distant to me)

[Libaax]

Whatever will happen it isnt good for Farnese's father, i have a feeling that he may die.

When a lion is too old to controll his pack, he is driven away by the young lions;)

[Eldo]

And after re-reading the chapter, the brother definitely seems to be focusing on their father during the conversation. If he's asking her to assassinate their father, why choose someone in the family? Hoping she will remain loyal to him? Can Farnese really get closer to the head of the family compared to other people? (They seemed rather distant to me)

Really, I wouldn't have thought of any assasination or marriage which is somehow linked to Farnese, the brother, and the father if Farnese hadn't left. There's a sinister plot brewing in the works, but that's all about it. Everything is distant. There hasn't been any other clues, besides Manifico's apparent disapproval towards his father, and the power struggle. I think that Farnese would go into any lengths to please her father. That's all crazy talk/theories in the wind anyway.

[Arresty]

I doubt an assassination is being planned, atleast not using Farnese. I don't think she could kill her father or be involved in it. Cause of his neglect to her I think it causes her to long his approval more, though I think thanks to travelling wiht Guts and friends that has died down some. She is learning to think outside the box.

Also I don't think the son woudl want to kill the father. I think the son wants to show his old man that he is not worthless. I think he wants to try and one up his father somehow so he can look down at him. I think he woudl do that over assassinate him. Especially since he is not in the best favor with the father or the eldest child, he woudl not get anything from the death of the father.

[Libaax]

Just remember who said that magnifico wanted to kill his father when the father is dead in a couple of chapters.

[Arresty]

I will. I can accept defeat. If I am wrong I will admit it. I will gracefully accept defeat.

Now that I say that, just remember who says it won't happen.

[Libaax]

Hehe

we will se

[Arresty]

*Fiercely stares down opponent*

We will.

[Libaax]

You are the favorite since the father might survive, its all about how much Magnifico hates him and if he isnt the oldest of the sons then he has no reason to kill him.

[Arresty]

Yes! *Calls his bookie*

[Eldo]

I think it would be funny if the sons don't inherit squat from their father, but instead Serpico gets it. That'd be cool.

[Dtortot]

Is it me or is hunger and starvation from all the trips taking its toll?

Were did Farnezes firenze body go to? Or Caska's? They are all bones and skin... They need some flesh, no wonder they are so weak.

Now seriously, maybe this is Muira's style changing over the years or maybe it is to show the hardships of the journey all of them have undertaken. Not only is Gatts worn out, but the rest of the team, except Isidoro and Silke because they are far too young.

[Trant]

If the father dies during an attack on the city instead of being assassinated do we still win?

I had another idea that maybe Manifico was planning to help whatever army was going to the attack the town, and reap the rewards (in the form of land and other property perhaps, and maybe even having the father be killed while we're at it)

But then the more I thought about it the more I realized that neither the Kushan or Neo Band of the Hawk really need all that much help in taking down cities and entires armies.

Two weeks is too long. I'll run out of stupid theories by then.

[Eldo]

Two weeks is too long. I'll run out of stupid theories by then.

I agree. Thank god for alcohol!

[Arresty]

Thank god for alcohol!

I agree.

If the brother is involved in his death someway including farnese than you win.

[Grahf]

Now seriously, maybe this is Muira's style changing over the years or maybe it is to show the hardships of the journey all of them have undertaken. Not only is Gatts worn out, but the rest of the team, except Isidoro and Silke because they are far too young.

hmm now that I think about it. Caska was looking on the small side, but she doesn't use more than half of her muslces anymore. Then there is Farneze.

[Libaax]

Even Guts look thiner he doesnt have as much muscles anymore as he did at the begining of the manga.

He is a wanted criminel,he should rob some rich people to eat as much as he need,he will need all of streangth against Griffith and his band.

[Grahf]

Well eating doesn't do much for broken bones and resets. He could only have some much muslce in that situation.

[Libaax]

Yeah broken bones and ribs will heal while you strenght wont be the same of you dont eat as you should.

[NINJ4]

NO! Guts SHOULD go steal so food and eat. As for reparing internal injuries, just sprinkle some of that fairy dust on to the food as a condiment.

As for Farneze - didnt seem like her brother was planning to marry her, maybe marry her to somone else - either way Guts will solve the problem since Serpico seems confused and beaten.

[Arresty]

Dude you need food to heal internal injuries. You need alot of protiens and calcium to rebuild your bones, as well as alot of vitamins and minerals. So eating is definately important. As for now he does look a little skinnier, but I htink its just he's relaxed and lieing down instead of decked out in armor. The armor itself will make him look bigger. But yes I would say he is slightly smaller then before, but he has not swung his sword in a while. He is getting out of shape.

[Grahf]

But just eating doesn't do the job. When he is busy swinging a sword "That is as long as he is tall" and then there is the armor that fuses itself with wearers bones. *shruggs* I think Rest is best in that situation. I don't remember then specifically saying that they were having a food problem on their journey. Before I never noticed him having buffets before.

[Arresty]

Now I am assuming they are eating fairly well. Cause they are in town. When they are out though they find there food so its different. But the only reason this came up was cause they all look skinnier.

And I agree rest is definately more important for healing bones and stuff. Its rare to see guts lieing in bed. Even when he was with the Hawks he would not line down to recover, but he has recently take one hell of a beating.