Censorship at it's finest

Post by **SarahofBorg** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:15 pm

The cover of vol 13 as released by Dark Horse shall look like this:

Hopefully it's just a sticker, although I don't honestly know. Leave it to America to find the most offensive thing about the image is the nude girl. The gouged out eye and the bleeding wounds and missing limb are perfectly fine.

Post by **jistanidiot** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:29 pm

SarahofBorg wrote: Hopefully it's just a sticker

So far all the other Parental Advisories on them have been stickers. I'm not worried. Of course I'm wondering why my bookstore is now 3 vols behind.

Leave it to America to find the most offensive thing about the image is the nude girl. The gouged out eye and the bleeding wounds and missing limb are perfectly fine.

If you don't hate nude girls the terrorists win

Post by **psi29a** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:01 am

Barnes and Nobel does not carry Berserk at all. I have to order 'em via Amazon.

Post by **SarahofBorg** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:05 am

Hah, I supose they don't. Never thought of it really.
Borders does...strange. There are other 18+ manga that they both carry (I just bought Old Boy, which both stores sold.) And Berserk is too popular not to sell if possible.

Post by **Starnum** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:17 am

Yeah, it's pretty stupid alright.

Post by **Buzkashi** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:18 am

psi29a wrote:Barnes and Nobel does not carry Berserk at all. I have to order 'em via Amazon.

Thats weird, you sure it just isnt at yours?. I've gotten almost all my copies from Barnes and Nobels.

Post by **psi29a** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:02 am

Could be just mine, I do live in 'Christiansburg', anywho... they have three full shelves of of Manga. None of 'em have the 18+ sticker like Berserk.

*sniff*

Post by **Gaiseric** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:13 am

I live in "happy valley" aka Mormon capital of the world and our Barnes and Noble does not carry Berserk. Borders and the bookstore in the mall do, as well as some of the comic book stores in the area.

Post by **Lord Rae** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:48 am

yeah outside of Atlanta it varies from one Barnes N Noble to another whether or not they'll have them.

Amazon is always there and occasionally with some nice deals.

Post by **TheDrizzit** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:56 am

DFW, Texas and no Berserk here either in our B&N's....Waldensbooks in the mall has them though. ^_^ But I'd just as soon just order them off of Amazon or darkhorse...

Post by **Starnum** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:49 am

Gaiseric wrote:I live in "happy valley" aka Mormon capital of the world.

I'm sorry.

Post by **ddem1** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:50 am

US Amazon for me, but gotta wait another year cause its more expensive if I order volume by volume (since Im in Croatia). Gonna wait till Dark Horse reaches vol. 21 or so

Post by **42ndEndOfTheWorld** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:19 pm

this reminds me of something from a Vietnam movie apocalypse now:

We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene!

Post by **Gaiseric** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:07 pm

Starnum wrote:
Gaiseric wrote:I live in "happy valley" aka Mormon capital of the world.
I'm sorry.

Yeah, I am pretty sure they would be burn me at the stake if they looked through my Berserk manga.

Post by **Istvan** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:53 pm

Well, they'd be left with the choice of either that or becoming rabid fans themselves.

Post by **Gattsblackfalcon** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:02 am

psi29a wrote:Barnes and Nobel does not carry Berserk at all. I have to order 'em via Amazon.

at least the manga can be founded in the States , i never had seen even one paper made volumen in my country

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Post by **psi29a** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:25 am

Gattsblackfalcon wrote:
psi29a wrote:Barnes and Nobel does not carry Berserk at all. I have to order 'em via Amazon.
at least the manga can be founded in the States , i never had seen even one paper made volumen in my country .

Yikes, next time I'm down... I'll bring some volumes for you. ^_^

Post by **inkthinker** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:31 am

TheDrizzit wrote:DFW, Texas and no Berserk here either in our B&N's....Waldensbooks in the mall has them though. ^_^ But I'd just as soon just order them off of Amazon or darkhorse...

Most Barnes & Nobles won't carry Berserk, or any other mature titles for that matter. I'm surprised to hear that ANY of them is carrying it, actually.

Waldens carries it because Waldenbooks is a subsidiary of Borders... in fact, most of the Waldens out there now are being slowly replaced by little Mini-Borders.

I expect it may very well be covered on the cover, but it's very likely that it's uncovered inside, and the only edit to the book otherwise. Dark Horse has made a good deal of money off Berserk and they've made it a point to stand firm on the book's content. It's true that vol. 13 is going to take the cake as likely the single most brutally graphic comic in terms of sex and violence published in the US in the last decade or more, but I trust Dark Horse to take the chance and stand firm on their convictions as a publisher.

Won't be surprised if this is the tipping point that makes conservative nutjobs finally take notice of manga as a whole, though. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened already.

Post by **Lord Rae** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:32 am

yeah I keep waiting for some nutjob to have volumes of berserk or any other adult manga and for the police or media to make it a point of cause.

Post by **Starnum** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:42 am

Oh, I've already heard of people trying to get manga banned from the states or some crap, but that'll never happen. It's like trying to ban video games, I mean come on. They may as well go after normal comics too, while they're at it. I mean, last I checked, which was a while ago, they don't even mark mature content on comics. I was surprised by this as a kid to read spawn and some others, and to see what they were actually like, and yet they'd still sell them to me, no questions asked. I thought that was cool though, of course.

Post by **Femto** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:46 am

Starnum wrote:They may as well go after normal comics too, while they're at it. I mean, last I checked, which was a while ago, they don't even mark mature content on comics.

They do now.

At least for cursing and boobs and shit.

Post by **Starnum** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:50 am

Ah, with the recent influx of paranoia over the subject, I figured they had. I mean, there's nothing wrong with marking things as mature content. There's things that kids really don't need to be exposed to until they're older. It's just when they start trying to do away with it all together that it gets ridiculous. It is weird how the sticker is over Casca's nudity, and nothing else though. You'd think the female body could be viewed as art, and that extremely violent images would be of more concern, but I guess they're just crazy like that, heh.

Post by **SarahofBorg** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:01 pm

Heh, I read Spawn as a kid too. It's probably the most graphic popular comic out there, but far from the most graphic comic of all. Look up R. Crumb if you wanna see *nasty* shit. Berserk has nothing on him. I remember reading a Zap comic of his where he had Jesus giving Satan a blow job O_o And that's far from an unusual site in his work.

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:18 pm

Its really stupid.

Like the nude girl is the worst thing in that cover.

Post by **Istvan** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:34 pm

Frankly, you'd think someone having an arm chopped off would be more disturbing then a naked person, but that's not the way our society seems to view things. Violence and blood and gore are far more acceptable then nudity, though I've never understood why.

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