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I attempted to write something on the topic but got a little confused so i will try to pinpoint a portion of it.

I agree with the fact that the idea of evil cannot be killed. It's more of an anomilly collection of all of the human's transgression of the world(all human pain/hate would have to go away for it to lose its power). Sorta like that purple slime that forms underneath New York City in Ghost Busters 2. All of the ill feeling and hatred of the city takes a physical manifestation and in turn fuels the creation/protection of the antichrist himself!

This purple manifestation of hate or what not of the city in turn causes major noticable appearances of supernatural ghosts, beings and things not of this world. In reference with the manifestation, as the hate in the city grew the slime started to form, until it flowed through the cities sewers and streets. This in turn made the people much more hateful and evil.

Not until the Ghost Busters had brought the Statue of Liberty to time square did the people start to relise what they were doing. Not until the city grew rich with happiness and high spirits and the antichrist/boss was killed did the evil start to receed.

I see the supernatural occurances in Berserk to be of similar relation with the GB movie. Not until Griffeth turns into a god hand and Guts escape from the feast do these strange occurances start to occur. But once the gap of known reality and the supernatural was breached...there was no turning back. All of hell and its minions were unleased upon the earth, and the blacker the scence gets the more supernatural the scene becomes.

Thus, i think that not until the god hand or some big boss is killed, or perhaps some big uprising of the good occurs, i fear that the story of Berserk will just keep on getting darker and darker. Also, there would be a way to kill the idea of evil if this were true, and that would be for all negative things to cease completely....which is impossible sadly for humans. So not until all hate, pain, sadness were to end would the idea of evil be killed.

(note: The god hand recieve their power from the idea of evil. if the god hand recieve their power from the idea of evil then the downfall of the idea would mean the substancial decline of the godhands powers. )


meh..from gramps to long a*$ debate over the downfall of man and the relinquish of evil.....
Anyway...thats just my take on it
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Eldo wrote:I don't think Idea could be killed, since it is derived from Human subconcious, there is no possible way it could be destroyed, unless with the extinction of humankind. Which is why I propose a theory that he would 'confront' Idea, but how Guts would respond or even get to Idea in the first place is beyond me. It just seems to me that if Guts is the one who is supposed to defeat all apostles including the God Hand, it would be logical that Guts head straight to the top dog for that. Probably the behelit would come to play, in unorthodox ways however.

Meh, I'm just tired...


Well, it's what I said. There isn't really anything substantial to this point that really gives us any idea <-- (wtf I know) as to what the larger picture actually contains. We don't know if that's just a part of the cosmic system in play and there is more, or not. We don't even know the actual backgrounds yet of the other God Hands, let alone Idea.

All that I can reasonably guess at, is that Skull Knight will kill Void, and Gatz possibly killing Griffith's human form. We don't even know if his objective lies in stopping Idea, as I doubt he even knows of Idea's existence. Now his brand might be lifted when SK does Void in, it's possible that might break his magic/curse. Then if Gatz acquires adequate revenge and is free of the brand that might be the end of his journey and involvement with the workings of Idea and his God Hand. If the brand lifts he may also be unable to connect or see the other planes, and apostles won't have any vested interest in him as a sacrifice.
ZoddsNo1Fan wrote:I attempted to write something on the topic but got a little confused so i will try to pinpoint a portion of it.

I agree with the fact that the idea of evil cannot be killed. It's more of an anomilly collection of all of the human's transgression of the world(all human pain/hate would have to go away for it to lose its power). Sorta like that purple slime that forms underneath New York City in Ghost Busters 2. All of the ill feeling and hatred of the city takes a physical manifestation and in turn fuels the creation/protection of the antichrist himself!

This purple manifestation of hate or what not of the city in turn causes major noticable appearances of supernatural ghosts, beings and things not of this world. In reference with the manifestation, as the hate in the city grew the slime started to form, until it flowed through the cities sewers and streets. This in turn made the people much more hateful and evil.

Not until the Ghost Busters had brought the Statue of Liberty to time square did the people start to relise what they were doing. Not until the city grew rich with happiness and high spirits and the antichrist/boss was killed did the evil start to receed.

I see the supernatural occurances in Berserk to be of similar relation with the GB movie.


Ghost Busters?!

It's amazing to me how far off track analogies can become. I see very little if not any correlation to Ghost Busters the movie, and I think Miura would slap you across the face if he had ever heard you utter this in his presence.

Yes, there is something strange in the neighborhood... jesus christ.
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All that I can reasonably guess at, is that Skull Knight will kill Void, and Gatz possibly killing Griffith's human form. We don't even know if his objective lies in stopping Idea, as I doubt he even knows of Idea's existence. Now his brand might be lifted when SK does Void in, it's possible that might break his magic/curse. Then if Gatz acquires adequate revenge and is free of the brand that might be the end of his journey and involvement with the workings of Idea and his God Hand. If the brand lifts he may also be unable to connect or see the other planes, and apostles won't have any vested interest in him as a sacrifice.
I doubt it will end that easily. I agree that SK will probably kill Void, and Guts may eventually manage to kill Griffith, but before he succeeds in that I would think all the other God Hand would die first (no evidence, just my personal feeling). If it ends with three God Hand still alive, it won't feel like there is actually any closure, the ending would feel weak. Even leaving that aside, it isn't the brand that lets him see Apostles (any human can do that) it just let's evil spirits become more active in his presence and lets him know when Apostles are near.
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I don't know, if he kills all of them some new ones will begin being born somtime 216 years in the future when Gatz has already died of old age.
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berserk berserk berserk
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You know they live in an immensely shitty world.
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berserk is cool
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Wow, that is the same guy, that's great. Miura never draws the same person so similarly, unless they're suppose to look the same. You can tell he's trying to hit him, that's awesome. Miura says he uses pictures of real people to come up with new faces. That's why you can find such great catches like this one, good work.
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