Movies of ´09

[papasith]

So a few tidbits i thought i would drop off for discussion, all assumeing IMDB is correct.

there is an Avatar the last airbender movie comeing out, but thats not the crazy thing, M. Night Shyamalan is listed as its director.

Although they have the animated green lantern movie comeing out this year, they have another green lantern movie listed for 2010, they seem to be a possible live action take on it all.

[Rolos]

involved in the deaths of millions

I'm sorry dude, but no, just no. It's not fair to say he's a "genocidal retard" (yeah, I quoted you incorrectly earlier) when you know nothing of him. You think everyone agrees with the Nietszchie's writtings? Plato's? Thomas Aquinas'? No, but we don't erase them from history because we find some discordances. As I just said, I don't agree with every single aspect of Che's life, but I do hold him in high regard as a true rebel, especially outside combat.

I hate to extend this discussion, and I promise I wont taint this thread anymore with non-movie-related shit after I post this.
I just cant let this one go.
Dude, Che Guevara was one of the most hardcore advocates of the "violent revolution". He claimed it was the only way a true communist state could be created.
If that meant lots of people had to die, he was fine with it. (What happened in Soviet Russia under Stalin, or Cambodia under the Pol Pot, is what happens when beliefs like his were applied to reality)

He got famous in Cuba because of how incredibly ruthless he was with those that chose to desert (I dont know if that's the verb I am looking for......it means to quit an organization, right?) the "Revolución".

I am not saying he should be "erased" from history. To say that would be against everything I believe in.
Thomas of Aquinas, for example. His atempt to justify the existence of god through reason was, in my opinion, one of the main reasons theology and philosophy were confused for so long, something that efectively kept both from developing.
Still, I keep recommending his "Theological Sum" to everyone I know is into philosophy.

I know of many South Americans that really deserve geting movies made about them, and its pretty fucking sad to see that, instead of them, Che Guevara is the one being shown on cinemas.

[Buzkashi]

Sometimes violent revolution is the only way.

[War Machine]

He considered armed rebellion the only solution when attempts to protest were met with genocide (Fulgencio Batista became president through a military coup on two separate occasions, what did you expect?).

Albert Einstein divorced his wife and married his cousin, hardly honorable when viewed this way, but that is not why we give Einstein such praise. I think the same could be said about Che, the main reason why he is revered is that he opposed the imperialist controlled state and wished to have an America (the continent) where the people were actually free and not subjected to the rulers the imperialist countries placed. More importantly, he was a strong advocate of education as the means of waking up the masses, he was a medic that provided care to the Cuban civilians even during the fight for revolution (how many genocidal maniacs do you know were medics?). But even so, his philosophy, more than his actions, is what perseveres.

"Creemos, y después de este viaje más firmemente que antes, que la división de América en nacionalidades inciertas e ilusorias es completamente ficticia. Constituimos una sola raza mestiza, que desde México hasta el estrecho de Magallanes presenta notables similitudes etnográficas. Por eso, tratando de quitarme toda carga de provincialismo exiguo, brindo por Perú y por América Unida." - Ernesto Guevara

My translation:

"We believe, and after this voyage more so than before, that the division of America into untrue and illusionary nationalities is completely fictitious. We constitute one sole mixed race, that from Mexico to the Strait of Magellan presents notable ethnographic similarities. For that, trying to remove all weight of meager provinciality, I toast for Peru and for United America." - Ernesto Guevara

The other argument that there are people more deserving of a movie is completely ridiculous, it can apply to any movie. And don't worry about this topic being discussed here, it is from a movie anyway.

[Femto]

Wolverine blew.

God knows why I went to see that movie.

[Buzkashi]

Wolverine suxd the big!!111!1ONeoNEoneone

seriously

[War Machine]

I thought Wolverine was better than the other X-Men movies. Wat u sai?

[Femto]

X-Men 2 is the best of the X-Men movies (including Wolverine).

X-Men 3 is the worst.

Fact is, the entire X-Men movie franchise has been rather unmemorable thus far.

[Loeviz]

X-Men 2 is the best of the X-Men movies (including Wolverine).

X-Men 3 is the worst.

Fact is, the entire X-Men movie franchise has been rather unmemorable thus far.

Havent seen Wolverine yet but I agree with the X-men flicks.
Dont know who in gods name gave the ok for the third part but he/she should start at Burger King instead flipping burgers.
Still I´m not so sure that the third part is so far from the Fantastic Four movies, they might be on the same level

[Femto]

The Fantastic Four movies are so completely mediocre.

[halfnhalf]

The Fantastic Four movies are so completely mediocre.

But Iron Man was completely awesome in every bit.

[Starnum]

Yeah, I wish the X-Men movies were as good as Ironman, and that sucks that the Wolverine movie is receiving such bad reviews on this board, but I'm not surprised. I've always thought the X-Men movies were a little off. Standalone they'd be fine, but I wish they wouldn't try to change so much. The first time I saw the first X-Men movie in theatres, when Cyclops asked Wolverine if he'd rather be in yellow and blue spandex, I shouted "Yes!" at the screen. That pretty much sums up my feelings on the X-Men movies. I still want to see Wolverine, but I'll be sure to check my brain at the door otherwise I'll probably just be grumpy and complain the whole time like I usually do with these kind of movies.

[DrPepperPro]

when Cyclops asked Wolverine if he'd rather be in yellow and blue spandex, I shouted "Yes!" at the screen. That pretty much sums up my feelings on the X-Men movies.

I don't get it.

[Starnum]

What do you not get? They change stuff too much. I wish they'd make it more like the comics. I actually would like to see them in their normal costumes. Why does Hollywood think that everyone looks better in black rubber suits? I like black as much as the next guy, but the original costumes have more flair and variety to them. I'm not saying they have to be spandex perse, but they could at least be the right colors and shape. It's like what they did to Deadpool in the Wolverine movie. He doesn't have everyone's powers, especially not Cyclops'.

[The Herald]

I did really like how a lot of Wolverine took place in Canada, that was cool. And how that diamond security base at the beginning of the movie, the exterior was my english administration building here at UBC. But other than that, the screenplay was absoulte shite, which was especially dumb because they had two heavyweights in Schrieber and Jackman to work with, and all they had them do was hiss. What a rip off. And if they were brothers, they really should have had more moments showing their connection, you know? Instead of all that romance bull with Wolverine, that could have been left out, especially since she died and he lost his memory. And this is coming from someone who usually likes romance. As the other XMEN movies go, the best character is always Magneto, and he was okay in all of them. I don't know why nightcrawler wasn't in 3, and why Pheonix killed Cyclops when she should have like been not so crazy and making babies with him ... yeah, 3 was the eternal fuck up to the comic universe, but IMO if it were a stand alone without all of the comics behind it then it wouldn't be as bad as everyone thinks it was. One more thing, in XMEN 1 there was no connotations that Sabretooth was Wolverine's brother, hell, Sabretooth was just a tank, not emotions, nothing. What changed in the decade or so between movies to make him so different anyways?

As for The Last Airbender movie, I think it will be okay because of Shamalan, he's actually quite the genius when it comes to directing child actors. Its just his own personal take on psychological thrillers that's a bit off. He tries to construct modern fairy tales and unless they're near perfect like Holes was they flop. Since the original writers of Avatar are pretty heavy handed in this I'm not worried. It's the awkwardnes of the live acting being done by teenagers that I'm worried about.

And for Starnum 17 Again was a great movie and totally funny in the way that Shakespeare's funny (though not quite as good writing). Good pacing, solid script, and Zac Efron did a surprisingly good job of acting. Kind of like how Leonardo DiCaprio was, and look where he's gone. I'll be looking forward to what this Efron kid does in the future when he grows up and starts making grown up movies. Funny to think he's older than me by two years ....

[Buzkashi]

You dont have to beat around the bush

if u want to sodomize efron just go ahead and say it.

I know i do!

After I came home from wolverine i masturbated to the thought of what i hoped the film would be, and cried myself to sleep when i remembered what i just saw.

and then masturbated again.

[Eldo]

After I came home from wolverine i masturbated to the thought of what i hoped the film would be, and cried myself to sleep when i remembered what i just saw.

and then masturbated again.

I think our standards for comic book movies has been raised since The Dark Knight and Watchmen. Also, the first two X-Men has been quality as well. We no longer try to remind ourselves that the movie we're watching is based on a comic book and suspend all belief. But instead, that's what the movie studio has done for us, and this is one of those movies I watched knowing I would be disappointed, so I went in with no expectations and with the sole intention of being entertained. The story was stupid as hell. I don't think I'll ever give someone an adamantium skeleton for the purposes of taking their DNA. I would...uh, I don't know, TAKE THEIR DNA.

[The Herald]

One, Watchmen wasn't that good, two, Buzkashi you're such a fag, three, the XMEN comic makes no sense anyways so a movie is pretty hard, especially to sasciate all of the fans' thirst for certain characters.

[Femto]

I masturbate to the image of Buzkashi masturbating.

[Rolos]

One, Watchmen wasn't that good, two, Buzkashi you're such a fag, three, the XMEN comic makes no sense anyways so a movie is pretty hard, especially to sasciate all of the fans' thirst for certain characters.

You disappoint me once again Herald.
Everyone knows you cant call a homosexual.....fag.
Thats really offensive. Instead you should use the politically correct "gentleman who craves for cocks up his ass" or alternatively "Sexually active Sodomite".
Repeat after me: Buzkashi, you're such a Sexually active Sodomite.
Also: Be honest with yourself, just say it: Take me Buzkashi! Make me yours!
You know its not healthy for you to repress those feelings. Have you ever heard of "Victorian Hysteria"?

[The Herald]

Yeah, but that was mostly women, and that's a funny little bit of history, and where the invention of the vibrator came from.

[Loeviz]

Saw the new Star Trek this evening and must say it was entertaining.
It wasn´t like The Dark knight but overall good from beginning to end
[spoiler]Kirk really likes those edges though

And what the f*cks the deal with Spock and Uhura getting it on? Isnt Spock Asexuell [/spoiler].

I´m not so familiar with the lore of Star Trek but I think they hadnt changed that much.

[Femto]

I enjoyed Star Trek a great deal.

[spoiler]I like how they used time travel to retcon everything that happened in the original series and give the franchise a fresh new start. It's more natural than the usual "just ignore everything that happened before it" route that most reboots take.[/spoiler]

[papasith]

i do have the agree the star treck movie was pretty awsome. i can say this also acknowledgeing that i was never a trekkie before ( heck im leaning toward star trek over star wars now especially since the last star wars movies compared to this)

[Loeviz]

The new Star Trek movie whoop the newest Star Wars movies a**.
I´m looking forward until the sequal comes out.

Before the movie started they showed the trailers for both Terminator and Transformers 2.
Either those movies are going to be awesome or total crap, nothing in between