Little known Berserk facts...

[Starnum]

We're talking about DBZ because it's awesome.

Anyway, yeah, Dende's dragon could revive people from death multiple times, like Porunga. However, at the time that Krillin died on Namek, Goku didn't know that Krillin could be brought back by the Namekian Dragon, so that might have been part of the reason he got mad enough to turn into a super saiyan. Yeah, later on it's not such a big deal though, heh. >.>

[Lara Skadi]

Yeah, except Skull Knight got the idea for the Sword of Resonance from Void's time-space manipulation abilities.

Did he? Well, it's probable, I guess (though he didn't say anything about it...)
Just wish I understood better how it works...

How it works? That's simple: Magic.

¬¬
I wasn't wondering about it's source, but... Anyway.... (doesn't really matter :p)


Knowing or not people could be revived, it's still not good to see it - and Goku just had to be mad or he wouldn't sound so human and all that stuff about "my frieeend!!" and other people's death. (He's not exactly human, though ...). It's cooler that way too
About how many times people can be brought back to life is useless to discuss, cause in DBZ world the whole world gets distructed with its people inside (of course :S) and later on it's all full of figurants again and again

[Starnum]

Actually, it turns out Dende's dragon CAN'T revive someone who's already been brought back. I'm rewatching DBZ with my wife, good times, and it turns out that no the new dragon couldn't bring back people multiple times after all. Besides, like I said, death is never taken lightly in DBZ, even if someone can still be brought back.

[Istvan]

Besides, like I said, death is never taken lightly in DBZ, even if someone can still be brought back.

And my point is that, at least towards the end of the series, the fact that they still take death seriously is just...silly. People have died so many times by that point that I fail to see how they can even care anymore. You're rewatching it? Do me a favor, count how many times each character dies over the course of the entire series, from the beginning of dragonball to the end of the Buu saga. Also count how many times the world (and the moon) get destroyed in that time. After you have those totals, we can talk about how seriously characters ought to take death in that world.

[Starnum]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from. Yeah, they probably shouldn't care about dying so much by the end, but for some reason they do. *shrugs*

[hbi2k]

That moon. It's nothing but trouble. We're better off without it. (-:



Watch the whole thing if you want, but the best part (i.e. the part that I wrote and voiced) is at 7:40ish.

I'm the reporter.

And yes, characters' attitudes toward death are pretty silly in DBZ... but then, EVERYTHING in DBZ is pretty silly. You either learn to take it in stride, or you don't enjoy it much. Either is a perfectly acceptable response, but the former is more fun. (-:

[Starnum]

Yeah, that moon gets blown up at least twice, once when Master Roshi blows it up in Dragon Ball, and then when Piccolo blows it up at the beginning of DBZ. I can only remember it happening twice though, but how does it keep coming back? Someone wished it back with the Dragon Balls perhaps, but who knows about the Dragon Balls besides the main cast of the show? Heh, well either way, its for the best, because without the moon we'd be in pretty bad shape, lol.

[DrPepperPro]

Funny thing I noticed. Just looks weird.



Here's the whole page for context.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/berserk-ch ... ge-23.html

[Starnum]

Heh, I love how it looks like he just casually kicks the guy, and it totally knocks him over. You can tell this scene is from the beginning of the manga, by the art, and well I just recognize the scene too, heh.

[The Herald]

I was watching Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome again, and I just realized that that movie has something very in common with Berserk. I'm sure you know what I mean, that Master-Blaster guy. The blaster was a big guy with a child's head, pretty freaky stuff. Just like that guy that Mozgus had working for him. I'm sure that Miura got that idea from a similar source that Mad Max did, but Thunderdome was done in the mid 80s and inspired a ton of subsequent fantasy and sci-fis. But I'm also pretty sure someone has mentioned this before.

[DrPepperPro]

I vaguely remember that movie but I think I know what you're talking about. Good find.

picture explains itself
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc14 ... 0-061d.jpg

[lon3vvolf]

Not too sure if I mentioned this somewhere but I swear I heard that 'flesh & blood' was a big influence on the manga.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089153/
Trailer:


The synopsis has some similarities : In 1501, in the Western Europe, in a period when the black plague is jeopardizing the populations, an army of mercenary peasants leaded by Martin fights side-by-side with the noble Arnolfini to retrieve his castle, with the promise of a huge reward. However, the band is betrayed by Arnolfini, and decides to pay him back, assaulting and stealing a caravan under the command of Arnolfini and his son and student, Steven. In one of the wagon is traveling the fiancée of Steven, Agnes, who is accidentally kidnapped and later raped by the group. Agnes becomes Martin's mate, and the mercenaries decide to invade a castle, without knowing that the army of Arnolfini is chasing them.


I have yet to watch this so can't speak from personal experience.


Damnit DrPepperPro... you own.

[DrPepperPro]

In an interview he said that he based Gut's facial appearance off of the main character in that movie.

[eldur]

Really? I cant see the similarities. (you meant martin huh?) Maybe with gambino....

[The Herald]

I watched Flesh + Blood and I can see where Miura got a lot of Berserk inspiration from, but I don't really think that the Rutger Hauer character is supposed to be like Guts but to be like Griffith. He sees what he wants and takes it, and manipulates people into doing what he wants them to. But at the same time he's also Guts because he is a creature of circumstance, but Guts is a much more pure and wholesome person than Martin, even though Guts is the 100 man slayer. I do recommend that people see this movie, it is very interesting. Though, it does have a sex or nude scene every ten minutes. Hope I didn't give too much away there .

[DrPepperPro]

Random guy on the right has a Mozgus hat.



Godo's gravestone has the holy see thing on it. I doubt he was much of a believer though if at all.

[Istvan]

As far as the gravestone goes, at that point in time it'd probably be traditional, regardless of how strong your belief actually was.

[Eldo]

As far as the gravestone goes, at that point in time it'd probably be traditional, regardless of how strong your belief actually was.

That could be true. I doubt that Guts would have made that gravestone from scratch, probably bought it from some place that had the gravestone made like that already. But still, good eye for spotting it, DrPepperPro. Nobody else saw it.

As for the hat, I don't recall where that scene was from. Are they all priests or men of faith? The hat could be related to religion, just like Mozgus was a fanatic.

[DrPepperPro]

The hat guy is in there during Farnese/Serpico backstory when Serpico's mother is about to be burned. So ya he's a religious guy. I thought at first it might be Mozgus before he had started praying, but that one servant of Mozgus with the bird mask says it's been at least 10 years of him praying like that, probably because that's when he was saved by Mozgus, and even then his face was flat. I don't think it's ever said how long ago that Farnese and Serpico backstory is, but they do look more or less like their current selves, so it's almost certainly not Mozgus.

[Rolos]

If you think about it, its not that hard to make an accurate guess.
That hat is probably something worn by Inquisitors, the officers of the Inquisition.

Mozgus was an Inquisitor (a very famous one, because of his ruthlessness), and that guy you just mentioned was participating in a (an?) heretic hunt, so he probably was one as well.

[Rolos]

Since it seems we are going to have to wait a while before the next issue of berserk gets released ( I am seriously considering suicide. Someone else's.......slow and painful....."suicide"), why don't we try to guess what real country berserk's countries are based on?

Here's an example:



Randel would be Holland, since it's a republic that has just achieved it's independence.
Balden would be Spain, since it's military is on par with Chudder's, but its engulfed in civil war and recently had lost sovereignty over Randel.
Chudder would be the holy Romano-Germanic Empire (or a continental-ized version of England), since its right next to France (Midland) and is constantly at war with it, but has succession problems.
ETC...


EDIT: Ah, crap...I left the "post a reply" tag open for so long that now the Thread I originally wanted to post it in has been relocated.......Screw it!
Oh, Dark Gods of Copy-Paste....I summon thee!
Done.

PS: Double Posting is t3h sh1t!!!1!1

[dialdfordesi]

The Mughal Empire would probably be the Kushan lands.

[Istvan]

The Mughal Empire would probably be the Kushan lands.

I would place the Kushan as all of India. Probably Persia too. And (based on comments made by the Kushans and the Emperor) possibly quite a bit more, besides. But India at the very least.

[Rolos]

Guys....the Kushan Empire actually EXISTED.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushan_Empire

[spoiler]I am pretty sure you already knew that because, you know, this is EG, not some lame Narutard ridden forum.[/spoiler]

The one true difference between the actual Kushan Empire and the Berserk Universe's one, is the presence of a nigh-invulnerable undying Apostle Emperor at the head of said Empire.
An Empire ruled by a capable Emperor that just doesn't die is bound to have a level of stability and prosperity no real empire could ever even hope to match. Add a supernatural army to the equation and you have the perfect formula for unstoppable expansion.
However, from a political stand-point, The Kushan empire in Berserk bears a striking resemblance with ("to" instead of "with"?) the Ottoman Turkish Empire in real history.


PS: Sorry if I wrote something in a weird or nonsensical way, I just came back from a party and there are still some traces of that Scotch in my blood.....

[hbi2k]

Mmm, Scotch. Wish I had some right now.

Not to derail this into another grammar discussion, but IIRC it BEARS a resemblance TO the Ottoman Empire, or SHARES a resemblance WITH it, but you can't mix and match. (-: