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The thing is that Marvel movies are pretty much following the Ultimate/MAX comics rather than the normal everyday 616 line.lon3vvolf wrote:great movie.
[spoiler]Sam Jackson as Nick Fury? I remember him being a white guy... whats up with that?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I must concur. Knowing all the mistakes that were made with the most recent Star Wars Trilogy, you'd think George Lucas would have learned something.MrFelony wrote:the new indiana jones movie was ridiculous and not in a good way
I haven't seen it yet, but that was my response, although I have not seen the movie yet. I have to say, that as the previous movies were based on mysticism and magical powers, this sci-fi concept felt out of place. I heard that this was all Lucas' idea, and I guess, in a way, that Lucas has lose touch with the current audience, and is still stuck in the 70's-80's era.MrFelony wrote:[spoiler]aliens? are you fucking kidding me? a ufo in the movie? i would have NEVER thought they'd put a UFO in the god damn movie. and this may be because i haven't watched the old indiana jones movies in a while, but i'm pretty sure he didnt have so many ridiculous instances where he should have died but didnt occur. and the tarzan scene? hilarious.[/spoiler]
Actually lucas had nothing to do with that. It's based off a myth about 13 crystal skulls being aligned in 2012 in order to save the planet from something.Eldo wrote:I haven't seen it yet, but that was my response, although I have not seen the movie yet. I have to say, that as the previous movies were based on mysticism and magical powers, this sci-fi concept felt out of place. I heard that this was all Lucas' idea, and I guess, in a way, that Lucas has lose touch with the current audience, and is still stuck in the 70's-80's era.MrFelony wrote:[spoiler]aliens? are you fucking kidding me? a ufo in the movie? i would have NEVER thought they'd put a UFO in the god damn movie. and this may be because i haven't watched the old indiana jones movies in a while, but i'm pretty sure he didnt have so many ridiculous instances where he should have died but didnt occur. and the tarzan scene? hilarious.[/spoiler]
Yeah, the secrets out.....George Lucas was just a figure-head. Its really those damn skulls who should be held responsible for calling the shots.fujinsan wrote: Actually lucas had nothing to do with that. It's based off a myth about 13 crystal skulls being aligned in 2012 in order to save the planet from something.
[spoiler]I'm aware that the crystal skulls are based off a myth, but not the alien connection. I didn't want to say the 'alien' because of potential spoilers, which is why I said 'sci-fi concept'. Just from the reports I've read, Lucas was adamant about it being of an alien origin, rather than the usual mysticism that Indy usually deals with. I was thinking how the crystal skulls would be a good idea without the alien connection. Throughout the movie, I was thinking 'maybe something Aztec, Incan, or Mayan would be cool', but not the alien thing.fujinsan wrote:Actually lucas had nothing to do with that. It's based off a myth about 13 crystal skulls being aligned in 2012 in order to save the planet from something.
Rolos wrote:Exactly, I mean, when has the 4th movie of a TRILOGY ever been good?
The plot was retarded and nonsensical, take as an example:
[spoiler]The scene in which the restored alien fried the Russian bitch with his "knowledge rays".
He was supposed to give her a reward for giving back the skull !
Why did he kill her? If you have been in contact with human civilizations for about 7000 years, you ought to know how much information a human can stand.[/spoiler]
I wasn't expecting much anyway, I only got to watch that movie because Iron man was sold out.
I thought that scene was reminiscent of the older movies. [spoiler]like when the nazi's were killed after opening the arc, or the guy who drank from the wrong cup. i agree that i wish it just kept it simple. KISS (keep it simple stupid) is an acronym for a reason.[/spoiler] they did several thins throughout the movie that kind of hailed back to the original trilogy, but nothing as good as him shooting that guy with the scimitars. that was classic.Rolos wrote:Exactly, I mean, when has the 4th movie of a TRILOGY ever been good?
The plot was retarded and nonsensical, take as an example:
[spoiler]The scene in which the restored alien fried the Russian bitch with his "knowledge rays".
He was supposed to give her a reward for giving back the skull !
Why did he kill her? If you have been in contact with human civilizations for about 7000 years, you ought to know how much information a human can stand.[/spoiler]
I wasn't expecting much anyway, I only got to watch that movie because Iron man was sold out.
I don't think most people are complaining about the Crystal Skulls so much as they are about the aliens. I thought the aliens concept was quite weird in Indiana Jones, who has always used religion and mysticism as the main theme of the plot. The final scene with the flying saucer was a bit over the top for me. I expected each line to be snappy and witty (which Iron Man had, and I guess it spoiled me when watching other films), but they were flat and tried to be 'tough guy'. I seriously wouldn't care if the movie didn't follow closely to archeology (did the previous films do that? Not really, no), it's goddamn Indiana Jones, but the alien stuff that Lucas added in was a massive WTF for me. There were plenty of silly scenes, for example, people don't ever drown at all: they always float. Overall, it's solid entertainment, but that's probably because my expectations weren't that high to begin with, which is why my mates left the cinema screaming bloody murder.MsNomer wrote:I think if you guys spent a little time researching the crystal skulls and the myths that go with them, you would find that Lucas et al did exactly what they should have. The direction the movies have always taken have paralleled the logic of Erich von Daniken of Chariots of the Gods fame. Admittedly there were a number of silly scenes but it's entertainment, not archeology. That said...
Eh? didn't you watch the scene after the credits? I'm sure this isn't the last time we'll be seeing Iron Man.MsNomer wrote:IRON MAN was AWESOME. I hope they make another one.
Dude, major spoilerage on the new Indiana Jones film...but seriously, aliens? WTF. That's just weird. George Lucas must be missing Star Wars now that the franchise is pretty much over, or something, heh.Eldo wrote:I don't think most people are complaining about the Crystal Skulls so much as they are about the aliens. I thought the aliens concept was quite weird in Indiana Jones, who has always used religion and mysticism as the main theme of the plot. The final scene with the flying saucer was a bit over the top for me. I expected each line to be snappy and witty (which Iron Man had, and I guess it spoiled me when watching other films), but they were flat and tried to be 'tough guy'. I seriously wouldn't care if the movie didn't follow closely to archeology (did the previous films do that? Not really, no), it's goddamn Indiana Jones, but the alien stuff that Lucas added in was a massive WTF for me. There were plenty of silly scenes, for example, people don't ever drown at all: they always float. Overall, it's solid entertainment, but that's probably because my expectations weren't that high to begin with, which is why my mates left the cinema screaming bloody murder.
I'm looking at the Incredible Hulk trailers and I'm just wondering how this film could be good. But I said that about Iron Man too, so I'm hoping that I would be pleasantly surprised. Was about to see Narnia, but none of my mates want to watch it, so I might have to go solo for that.
Oops, at that point, I had presumed that everyone has seen it.Starnum wrote:Dude, major spoilerage on the new Indiana Jones film...
Yeah, there used to be a time where the directors and studio companies were in charge of the Marvel properties in film, hopefully this would change. With Ang Lee's film, he tried to push to the audience the whole 'man in the body of a monster' theme, which is generally the theme in the comics, but tried a little bit too hard that it became more of a drama than action. I felt underwhelmed with the CGI effects, and fell asleep watching it mid way through.Starnum wrote:As for the Incredible Hulk, I know how you feel. After the last movie sucking so bad, it makes me leary of another one, but at least it's being done with Marvel this time, so this one should be better.
Eldo wrote:Oops, at that point, I had presumed that everyone has seen it.
Yeah, there used to be a time where the directors and studio companies were in charge of the Marvel properties in film, hopefully this would change. With Ang Lee's film, he tried to push to the audience the whole 'man in the body of a monster' theme, which is generally the theme in the comics, but tried a little bit too hard that it became more of a drama than action. I felt underwhelmed with the CGI effects, and fell asleep watching it mid way through.
