Berserk 295 Preview
» Posted March 21st, 2008 by psi29a
第295話 末神
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March 21st, 2008 at 5:32 pm
A little bit early, that preview, isn’t it? Looks like we move towards the main event, the fight between Griffith and Ganishka. Most likely the next chapter will intruduce the battle between those two. I wonder how the Emperor plans to defend himself without his army
But looking at the picture reminds me on something… Anyone remembering “Gargoyles – on the wings of law”? It’s very, very old, but still awesome
March 21st, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Yay, more Berserk = more awesome. But I hope that there won’t be 10 chapters now dedicated to Griffith and the Emperor fighting, we need to see Guts and company finally getting to, or at least closer to, Elfhelm.
Plus I remember the Gargoyles cartoon, it kicked some serious ass, and the intro was awesome.
March 21st, 2008 at 8:37 pm
guts better come in and slice griffth. yea like Aetherfukz sayz we need to see them get closer to that elfhelm shits
March 21st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
EG RULES!!!!!!!!!!!
March 22nd, 2008 at 1:06 am
Lets hope this lucky streak keeps up and we get the story going! Take your time on the translations guys, I’m still reeling from the consistent releases so far =)
March 22nd, 2008 at 2:35 am
Awesome, we coming up to a climax. I can feel it, although it was a bit of an underwhelming lead up, since most of my attention was spent wondering what Guts and crew were doing.
Anyway, I think this dude had a point here.
# Marte Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 8:51 am
Thank you for another great release!
P.S. Don’t take this as a complaint, but isn’t it time to change those 2 pages at the end of each release? Every time that I look at them, I find them to be more and more disturbing, because Griffith is still there with all the other people of the old Band of the Hawk. I mean, come on, he killed them! Does he really deserve to still be there?
Anyway, it’s not really important, I just wanted to say it.
Thank you again.
What he’s saying also rings true to me also. It’s kinda like an animated series intro that changes, parallel with story arc. It would be kinda cool to see a pic with griffith and the New Hawks. If there were such a picture.
March 22nd, 2008 at 4:08 am
shit that endless wait is kind of paying off right now haha.
March 22nd, 2008 at 5:01 am
InterRage, Marte, the resaon why I used the Hawks picture was because it kind of reflects EG in spirit. In my opinion, the Hawks, back in pre-eclipse time, were one big happy family. We at EG are definitely connected similarly to the Hawks; we are almost like family despite living continents apart. We definitely won’t let an ecliptic event happen within our group, of course.
But if others think that the credit pages are getting old and need a breath of fresh air, sure, I’ll take that into account. It’s because it’s just easy for me to copy and paste the credits and the note files whether than making a new one all the damned time. Just laziness on my part, really.
March 22nd, 2008 at 9:02 am
you can always have someone else doing it, like some kind of contest
March 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 am
Can anyone explain me, is it just me or is there a giant boob behind that tower?
March 22nd, 2008 at 10:49 am
Woooooohoo! Finally things are starting to get back the way they were… Lately, there’s has been so many delays that a 2 weeks release starts to seem early
Although I’m not very excited about the clash between the “Hawks” and the Kushan, It’s still good to see some action once again. Plus, right after that the story will hopefully pick on Gatsu’s journey
Looking forward to this chapter, and thanx guys
March 22nd, 2008 at 11:39 am
kickass
March 22nd, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Holy crap, i though so too… Theres a big boob….
I think an angel will make his appear……
if you know what i mean
March 22nd, 2008 at 1:55 pm
oh wow, yea………a big boob, But why would she make her appearance here?
March 22nd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
thats great, 3 chapters in a moth, its scarry at he same time, i hope he keep this pace and dont give us a big wait
March 22nd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
woah 3 chapters in a month… seriously me and my hommies got drunk as we herd that berserk would start releasing chapters properly.
I just can’t wait, the finest manga in the world will keep on going.
I just hope the fight between Genkiskhan and Griffith goes quick then we can head on to Guts’ group that’ll finally reach Elfheim… after 120 chapters of crap LOL
March 22nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
So the EG staff is like the former “band of the hawk”… Soon Eldo will sacrifice the others -Mwahahaha!
Psi, Mystic and co. should fear the upcoming eclipse
March 22nd, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Wow, new Berserk already? Thanks EG for all your hard work!
@Thana
gargoyles rocked so hard! damn I’m old as hell…
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Doesn’t boobs come in pairs?
Looks to me more like a dome (e.g. Taj Mahal)…
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Hi guys,
I m so glad to see that new chapters are coming out like mushrooms after rain, but still a can t get through the feeling, that we will be in pension when it comes to the final battle between Guts and Griffith… (I d like to be wrong)
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:05 pm
bachlor + virtual mirage on screen = boob visions ^^ j/k
March 22nd, 2008 at 9:14 pm
I’m hoping for a boob monster. *rolls boob shaped dice
March 22nd, 2008 at 11:33 pm
You’re all wrong, ( in the spirit of the nasty rape monsters Miura draws ) its definitely a giant phallic boobie-ballsack monster posing as a tower. It’s shadow will consume everything!
March 23rd, 2008 at 2:46 am
The preview title translate to “End God”
March 24th, 2008 at 12:31 am
Woohoo!!!
March 24th, 2008 at 6:09 am
“End God”? Man, I really hope it’s going to be a Griffith vs Ganishka or whatever his name is. Sure, I want more Guts, but the prospects of this “man-made Behelit” is far too impressive to miss out on.
March 24th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Bird, Boobs, Gargoyles, and Erect Objects to Emphasize the Male Genitilia can’t get any better than this.
Wocka! Wocka! Wocka!
March 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
No long, protracted battle, please, but I hope Miura continues to spend time on this arc, ’cause I like the characters in it… all these nice people who have no idea what their wonderful savior did to get where he is right now.
So here’s a question that comes from Bakiraka: Is Griffith going to continue doing his good deeds once he wins himself a kingdom? Or is he going to be the self-centered bastard the Eclipse showed him to truly be?
(Oh, and what was the Japanese title of the last chapter? Is 末神 the one for 295, or is it just in the preview?)
March 24th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
i thought griffith was pretty self centered during the golden age arc, that’s why casca resented guts for getting “friendly” treatment from him. everything about griffith’s behaviour towards guts went against everything she knew about griffith. i would assume once griffith becomes king he will continue to wage war indefinitely to expand the sphere of power controlled by midland. however miura has dropped a couple clues that things like military power won’t have any meaning once griffith’s reign is established. also, i too think the surprise hero next chapter will be goliath, waking up to clean the crime and corporate corruption from wyndham once and for all. so the title of the next chapter will really be: “Wakinasai, Goriasu!! Fight!”
March 24th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
“So here’s a question that comes from Bakiraka: Is Griffith going to continue doing his good deeds once he wins himself a kingdom? Or is he going to be the self-centered bastard the Eclipse showed him to truly be?”
My opinion: Of course he will NOT do any good deeds anymore! When Griffith becomes king his dream, his wish came true. When this happens he will become Femto and everything will be a living hell.
).
I don’t think Griffith ever did something good though… Oh, maybe he saved some people and stuff, but he always did it for his one purposes. There is no kingdom without a population and most people he saved or showed mercy to are fitting in his plans.
This is why I said in one of the former chapter previews that it feels like being so close at the end. As far as I can interprete the last chapters Griffith is on his way to become the ultimate villain and Gutts and his troop will prepare for the final battle with Femto and his band of the dark hawk. But it seems to simple… Meeting the king of the elves has a touch of the meeting between the fellowship of the ring and Galadriel which was only the beginning of the epos “Lord Of The Rings”. Caskas cure has been foretold and I expect a return of Rickert. There are lot of stories to be told like the former life of every single new general of the new band of the hawk (well, I would like to know that
A much simpler explanation of my opinion: The end is near – but the way to it could be twisted like hell. But this would mean that Femto would be the main antagonist and I’m not totally sure about that. Remember that the god hand has five fingers and like the the title includes it belongs to someone…
Needless to say that Berserk is one of my favorite stories. I’m so much looking forward to the upcoming development!
March 24th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I’ve always had the idea that when Griffith becomes King, the world will turn into the first few chapters (Where Guts kills the giant snake demon), or has it been established that that is something else?
I know that the first few chapters were just something to submit to a contest or something, but maybe that’s what he’s intending.
March 24th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Dont forget the skullknight either… however I wouldn’t want this to drag out forever, all good stories come to an end, and hopefully Berserk will reach its before it becomes a crappy series. (God knows Im no fan of the later episodes at all!) I doubt however that the end battle is near, there’s too many relations between characters left to explore.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
It is good to see that Berserk is coming out more frequently lately.
The Griffith vs Ganishka fight should be starting either this chapter or the next. I’m looking forward to seeing more of Griffith, and plus after this fight Guts and crew should be arriving at Elfhelm which will be really awesome too
I agree that once Griffith gets his kingdom he will revert back to Femto. If he doesn’t at least do that he will show that he is evil and probably spread corruption throughout the world.
March 25th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Griffith will crush his enemies and bathe the world in blood and fire, as a demon overlord should. I, for one, welcome him and will bend the knee at first opportunity. All hail.
BANZAI GRIFFITH-SAMA, BANZAI!!!!!!!!
March 25th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
I agree with everyone who has said that they believe once Griffith finishes off Ganishka that he will unveil his true intentions for midland. I am unsure whether we are approaching the “final battle”. I agree that Griffith is Guts’ main antagonist, however I believe that he wishes to take down the god-hand as well. Plus as has been mentioned there are still so many mysteries concerning so many characters to be revealed e.g. Skullknight, White Hawk Knights, etc. Wherever Miura takes the story I will be reading and enjoying his vision, that is a certainty.
March 25th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
the prophecy says: our world will be changed forever; I doubt everything will be a “normal” world
March 25th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
As for this “reaching the end”… I think it feels like we’re coming up on the end of the “Millennium Falcon” part, but yeah, a lot of stuff needs to happen first.
Glad to get a discussion going about Griffith! I honestly hope that he doesn’t start engaging in full-blown /obvious/ evil right away. The uber-angst of having a nation of good people on his side against our heroes is just to fun a prospect.
March 25th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Well, if you look up history a bit. Castro was a war hero turned ruler. He does have a charisma about him, but Not everybody thinks he’s a swell guy(obviously).
March 26th, 2008 at 2:33 am
I am also thinking about the first chapter. One commoner said about Griffith that midland went bad after he came to power.
March 26th, 2008 at 4:08 am
I would be disappointed if there series was any more than 3/5 the way done.
March 26th, 2008 at 6:42 am
“Irenicus Says:
March 26th, 2008 at 2:33 am
I am also thinking about the first chapter. One commoner said about Griffith that midland went bad after he came to power.”
I’m gonna have to read again the first chapters, but I don’t think real clues were given about Griffith’s reign other than the nature of the second festival. By the way, the first chapters seem to have happend BEFORE the actual ones (no Berserk armour, no white hair, stupid puck getting to know gutts…).
By the way : thanks so very much everyone at EG for the translations!
March 26th, 2008 at 11:38 am
“I am also thinking about the first chapter. One commoner said about Griffith that midland went bad after he came to power.”
You sure about that? Actually I found that quote only in the anime, not in the manga, and the anime includes not even half of the plot of the manga. The first chapter of the manga happens after the eclipse but a lot of month before the actual chapter, so it would be stupid that one of the commoners knows about Griffith being king – he wasn’t even close to that at this time… Just think about the release of the anime. It lays back quite a bit, so most of the new developments in the plot were unknown. But it’s a pretty good foretelling about what will happen
March 26th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Álvaro Says:
“..the first chapters seem to have happend BEFORE the actual ones (no Berserk armour, no white hair, stupid puck getting to know gutts…)”
Re-read after the eclipse when Guts leaves Caska in Rickert’s care. From there it goes into the first chapters.
March 26th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
You guys should really check out the forum. This stuff is already analyzed and discussed heavily in there. Explore it sometime.
http://www.evil-genius.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=806&p=89586&hilit=griffith+king#p89586
March 26th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Forums are no good for lil Thana…
Forums make lil Thana too much addicted…
March 26th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
This is my opinion regarding Internet forums!
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20080227.jpg
Have a nice Berserk!
Phireo
March 27th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Episode 296 will out on May 23 (YA issue #11)
March 27th, 2008 at 9:52 am
I think that, at the very least, dialog and extended plot in the anime, such as the commoner telling of Griffith’s malevolent, sadistic, or perhaps unnatural rule, serves as either a guideline of where Kentarou Miura intends to go with the storyline, or where he had intended to go at that point in time, choosing by this point in time a heavily revised storyline. The one thing that has remained constant, however, is that events that have been heavily predestined through the stream of causality indeed happen, and occur with much God Hand back-patting-glee. Miura is now illustrating where he will go with Griffith’s ascension through the revelations of those apostles or Band of the Hawk that are attuned to Griffith in a supernatural sense, I.E. Locus or the psychic girl. Unless something radical changes Miura’s mindset, I think it is safe to assume that Miura is eager to show this awe inspiring rule of Griffith that can only be foreshadowed. I still think that Guts isn’t ready whatsoever to face off against Griffith, after all, let us remember Griffith in the form of Femto possessed some sort of supernatural or “magic” ability which he used with little success against the Skull Knight, and in a sadistic manner against Guts upon the Slug Baron’s summoning. If his abilities have carried over into his new physical form (likely) and he has had time for fine tuning or practice (also likely) then Guts had either forget about his vengeance, find some Achilles heel of Griffith’s, or improve upon himself, I.E. become more demonic in order to defeat Griffith. It will be interesting to see which way he goes about it, or whether he has a choice in the matter.
Also, I believe we will see Guts with a new hairstyle before he hits 30 (I’ve heard sources say that he is something around 26, 27 years of age?). He will no longer be the black swordsman, therefore he will finally be able to confuse all of those pesky papal knights into stupor. I do wonder, however, as to what the prevalent attitude toward mortals will be in the King Griffith world. There will be much disbelief, disdain, and sheepish embarrassment amongst the mortals as they are served in canape fashion to apostle patrons.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:00 am
@Lucifer
WHAT?! More 8 week + Wait?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! (as Chapelle asian pixy) I have disgrace the honor of mai famiri, Magical happy disembowelment act, GO! SEPPUKUUUU!
March 27th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Guys,
The stuff with the Snake Baron and the Count happened BEFORE the current timeline. The comment about Griffith being king was only in the anime, and it was erroneous.
March 27th, 2008 at 11:03 am
“I’ve heard sources say that he is something around 26, 27 years of age?”
He’s 21 years old, everything concerning Guts age is well described in the manga, especially his early years, u just have to sum up to know his age
March 27th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
NOTE: If I made a double post, SORRY!
Just checked the RAWs, and now I think that this seems to confirm what lately I thougth about Berserk cosmology, but I’m not Miura so who knows how real is that:
*POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
As Griffith describes God in Chp 83, he is made of flesh (but Griffith doesn’t have any idea of what is an ideal embodyment, so who knows?). Flesh? Mmmm…
Ganishka made the first step using God behelit, so probably he is tied and doomed to God decisions (well, that’s pretty evident, cannot imagine Griffith losing now).
Remeber when Gutts rescued Griffith of *THAT* tower, remeber *THAT* skeletons??????
The SUPERDIRECT interference of God in the dreams of the men is a HUGE indication of what Ganishka is doing is dangerous to him. Probably if Ganishka absorbed all the life in the city, not only his soldiers, he probably became stronger than Griffith, even than “God”.
**THEN**
What I deducted is…
God creates a superknigth that unites all men in a place, then he recharges his “batteries” by making a supersacrifice. When the knight discovers that he was just a tool he can be converted in the Skull Knight. Why all this? I don’t know, probably Power, probably to “help” mankind.
Skull Knight == Griffith of the past == Gaiseric. No, not Gutts. Gaiseric was the winner in the past, not the trigger to create it.
The question is clear: WHERE IS THE PLACE OF GUTTS IN ALL THIS? Probably there was no Gutts in the other iteration, probably Gaiseric sacrified its Caska version, or Gutts is SO Gutts that is the first one in surviving.
Or I’m just WRONG!
*END OF POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
March 27th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Guys, spoilers: Guts has a behelit. Next eclipse coming. There is the hawk, the falcon, and then the eagle. Guts becomes the eagle. There’s god’s hand and there’s death’s hand. Fuwhahah!
March 27th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Guts is just 21?
I always thought he was older
March 27th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Guts may be 21 but I think we all agree he would open a can of whoop ass on any college kid. I saw an earlier comment asking for a new credits page… I concur. I don’t mind the current one but Griffith with the old hawks doesn’t seem right. Not after he sold them off to gain all that power (poor bastards). I would like to see some more action going on with the skull knight and his behilit sword.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
College kid?
with 21 I would say you’re not properly a kid (I’m 21 -_-’) besides.. guts would whoop ass on anyone despite their age anyway…
As for the skull knight’s sword I got the impression that he could only use that once
March 27th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
well since the behelits are still inside sk, i think he can use it whenever he wants.
March 27th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Bear in mind life expectancy in the Middle Ages was 30 years of age. Now, that includes a lot of infant mortality, but if you look at the dates people dies back that, most people didn’t live past 50 or so. 21 was “older” in the past than it is now. I always have to remind myself that if I’d been living back, then I’d probably have been married for 8 years and have given birth to as many kids (assuming I hadn’t caught all that strep throat as a child, otherwise I’d be loooong dead).
March 28th, 2008 at 5:12 am
awww damn. the next chapter is in 2 months. well. at least we got a few back to back chapters…
March 28th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Avorri_A_Cassa:
“deduced” is more standard than “deducted” in this situation. “Deduct” as a synonym for “deduce/infer” is only its second meaning; its first is “to take away/subtract.”
Re: your theory is interesting, but I also highly doubt that Griffith is about to go, “oops! I did a booboo!” and become a good guy. History doesn’t /always/ repeat itself.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Thank you vashfanatic, sorry for slapping Shakespeare’s face again (and probably in this sentence too).
About Griffith, he’s pretty cold. Why not? He slept with a filthy pedophile just for money. Also, if one wants to be a king firstly should win him, what about God? I’m just DEDUCING (
)
March 28th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Come ooooooon! Don’t tell we’ll have wait that much for the next chapter
If that’s the case, they better end the Griffith – Ganishka fight in this chapter!
March 28th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
“Skull Knight == Griffith of the past == Gaiseric.”
I don’t think so… Well, the Skull Knight may be Gaiseric, but i don’t think he was like Griffith. If he was like him he wouldn’t be the Skull Knight but the fifth finger of God Hand by now.
“The question is clear: WHERE IS THE PLACE OF GUTTS IN ALL THIS? Probably there was no Gutts in the other iteration, probably Gaiseric sacrified its Caska version, or Gutts is SO Gutts that is the first one in surviving.”
I think Gaiseric IS the the Gutts of this event in the past. You forgot one decisive point in your theory: Why is the SK after Void of GH? We don’t actually know what happened. We learned about a “fairy tale”, about God sending 4 angels to punish Gaiseric and after that his kingdom vanished. We saw the bodies in the hole, being marked by the brand of sacrifice.
What else do we know?
- We got that chapter, that was deleted afterwards… The talk between God and Griffith. In my opinion this God is the evil being behind all.
- 4 angels would perfectly match the members of the GH. Considering them send by a thing calling itself God they could be called angels.
- The mark of sacrifice… as far as we have seen it being cast it was mostly and perhaps ever channeled by Void.
To put it bluntly: I think Void perished the kingdom of Gaiseric and thus he became the SK, lead by his rage and the power of his berserker armor, to retribute Voids evil deeds. The intention of the attack against Gaiseric was maybe to make him the 5th finger, the marks could be a proof. Conclusion may be that SK is a mix of Gutts and Griffith.
If it’s really repeating of SKs former story then Gutts’ place in it may be to hinder Griffith to become Femto. As matter of fact this all is only speculation because we got only some hints.
…
Admittedly trashy but a possible conclusion for me.
I don’t think it will be like that. SKs past may be interesting and will eventually be revealed, but I doubt an important link to the actual situation. I think it’s more about the relationship between the SK und Void, whose will eventually clash against each other again – sounds a bit like the typical story line of an anime: A big group of good and evil ones are forming the most fitting one-on-one-pairings and fight till only one survives like in a tournament
I’m still sure that the whole plot isn’t only about Gutts and Griffith. There is so much more… We got a lot of little hints and you should not forget that Griffith has been corrupted by something much more powerful as we know so far!
March 28th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Thana Says:
Admittedly trashy but a possible conclusion for me.”
March 28th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
“A big group of good and evil ones are forming the most fitting one-on-one-pairings and fight till only one survives like in a tournament
I think you watch too much pokemon, anime or whatever the hell.
March 28th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
“I think you watch too much pokemon, anime or whatever the hell.
”
I thought I called it myself anime-style and graded it as trash…
Naaah… I’m a bit to old for pokemon – I hate those merchandize-wannebe-plots! But anime per se is fine. I wouldn’t consider watching anime as a bad trait. Doing so would be narrow-minded.
And even if it is a bad trait in a country far, far away: I love to read manga and watch anime – you can blame me for that
March 28th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
what i mean was, it sounded like you were summing up the conclusion of berserk in spirit of something along the lines of, dbz for example, where it’s drawn out so far, that you knew what the ending was and eventually you didn’t care to know the ending even if it was compelling.
March 28th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
not that I’m saying dbz is compelling or anything.
March 28th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Again, that would be to simple for the whole story but it fit for the Skull Knight and Void. The SK wants to kill Void and Void on the other hand seems to be the worst possible opponent for Gutts. The most simple way to finish that sub story line would be a duel between the two.
As you maybe know I expect a lot of the plot and if my expactations come up the God Hand will somehow become an enemy to set sight on – to send the SK would be most common way to annihilate Void in my opinion. But maybe that’s to simple.
I’m rather interested how Miura continues the plot after Griffith becoming king of Midland and the Gutts group’s visit at Elfheim.
March 28th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
About Gaiseric, I think you guys are forgetting two fellows he seems deeply connected with: the old witch who may have tied gaiseric’s soul to its bones or skull armor (who reminded FMA here ?) after his body was eaten by the berserk frame. Ok this may be a little bit cliché but what was her role? Caska like ? They call themselves friends but hearing Shierke speak about how she was looking after the berserk armor…
The other related one is of course Zodd. A warrior he was, that’s for sure, and that at least makes him quite similar to Guts. To me he was part of Gaiseric’s troops (“old friend”, speaking of friends again) but that’s not for sure.
March 28th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Mmm… Void. I thought that God was an ancient great human mage with two reicarnations and each “angel” a subordinate except for the fifth that is replaced again and again just to be used. Was Void a normal human, someone close to SK? Or was an ancient apostle hidden in the form of a friend that guided Gaiseric-SK to the previous “battery recharge”?
The thing that doesn’t fit in all this is that SK-Gaiseric WAS the leader/king of all. This is why I think he is a Griffith-like. Probably in the previous iteration the sacrifice was made by the Gutts-one, this is, Gutts = Void of present. And Caska-of-the-past? Was one? If not, this is GREAT! She is the key! Then the demon-son that was reborn with the same properties as Griffith probably is the first time to appear. Will he be the God Killer, leaded by his parents?
March 28th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Ok, my english stinks.
I forgot: I see in Farneze the dark spirit of Slan.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Thnx EG. All that long nights waiting are paying off now eh lol
March 29th, 2008 at 1:39 am
Really? i just see a horny girl who gets off on fire and giant swords.
March 29th, 2008 at 2:03 am
SwordsRCool
I fear the farneze we grew to love and cherish has changed now and has started to see a new path away from the temptations of lust.
It has been a sad few chapters/volumes seeing this.
March 29th, 2008 at 4:04 am
Sorry guys, i’m going to desagree a bit here. First i believe you’re stretching the hints a bit much. Personally i do believe that SK is Gaiseric, and he became what he is through the use of the berserk armor. it was stated during the witch of the forest fight. the difference between SK and gutts is that he has people that support him and keep him in check from walking that path till the end.
Regarding this battery recharge theory, i’m gonna disagree, God is a reflection of the darkness of humanity’s soul, and griffith is the embodiment of this through the laws of causality as used by God, this is pretty clear if you read the removed chapter.
Going back to the demon spoiled child thar was conceived by Casca and gutts, he was taken into the behelit apostle and used to re-incarnate Griffith into this world, but apparently his spirit was released from that body, i woud bet that the child we met at the beach house is theirs, it was hinted that ” …they almost look like a family”. Casca instinctively protected the child and even gutts felt ok around him, honestly gutts never likes anything his unfamiliar with.
Regarding Griffiths kingdom, it feels more than like it’s a merging of all the planes, giving all kind of creatures access to the real world. In my opinion at this point Griffith is beyond a simple consideration of wether he is good or evil, he just became the ultimate pragmatist, the morality of his actions is deemed a waste of effort, results are the only important thing. Will he be a fair ruler? well that will deend on your point of view, if you don’t like him and do something about it, then he’ll get rid of you, quick and clean. If you support him, then there will be no problem. He has already cleaned a few apostle’s himself who were not aligning with him.
One more thing, Gutts does not have a behelit anymore, the SK took it and consumed it, right after asking gutts if that was really the path he wanted to follow.
Finally regarding Elfhelm, i guess it’s a good opportunity for the character to rest recuperate and upgrade either in equipment or resolution, to be able to go as far as they have to. Being a bit more childish, new arm for gutts, a “cure” for Caska, further comprehension of the world for schierke, etc. Just like the wizard of OZ!!
Thanks for reading this far, i await your comments
March 29th, 2008 at 4:36 am
People, we need to focus. There is a giant boob in that city! Do you know what that means!?! Because I sure as hell don’t!
March 29th, 2008 at 7:36 am
The only thing about the 4 angels being the GH which doesnt fit is the timeline http://www.skullknight.net/encyclopedia/world/timeline/timeline.html
Seeing as the GH came after him it doesnt fit.
I see SK as Gatts imo, with the grudge against void and such. Although maybe Zodd ties into this too. Like SK/G ‘was’ Gatts (not literally though) Void was like Griffith or maybe Zodd.
The clue i got was when Mozgus was blabbering on about it *goes for reference*
About the sage being locked up, still prayed (maybe summoned the GH)
I thought there was more than that.. But there isnt.. :p
March 29th, 2008 at 9:01 am
About that timeline… Where are the informations from? Maybe I overread it but I don’t think we know the birthdays of the GH-members.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:50 am
“One more thing, Gutts does not have a behelit anymore, the SK took it and consumed it, right after asking gutts if that was really the path he wanted to follow”
Could you tell me in which chapter?
March 29th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
He is wrong. The SK got his behelith from the wannabe fairy, Gutts still has his. But the last time I remember to see his behelith was when Griffith was reincarnated. Pakk noticed the transformation and screaming of his little hatchling
March 29th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Hum Guts still had it inside Qliphoth. Its face even got organized though it didn’t open the eyes
March 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Well, the great difference with Marduk is that he sees God as a supernatural entity like the big four elemental spirits where I just see a human that a long long time ago made some kind of strange stuff.
Shierke stated (or is a mistranslation?) in the Qliphot episodes that there’s a fifth elemental: darkness. Is God this elemental? I doubt it, there’s no elementals (the tiny creatures) for darkness (behelits? I don’t think so). Same for Gutt’s sword, probably now is a “magic” sword related to this darkness element. It is said that due it attacked so many apostles (living beings in two levels of existence, as Gutts and Caska) is now “affected” by that and can cut the beings with corpses in the spiritual an physical world. This explains why Gutts couldn’t kill Slan, she’s also in the ideal world and this makes her invulnerable to this sword. Not the same for the SK sword probably.
How is possible that Ganishka now is something so similar to God? I can remember how the huge pseudobehelit (during the second reincarantion of Ganishka) remembered me a LOT the apperance of God in the Chp 83. Also, the God direct interference in the humans dreams by two times, first with the prediction of the Hawk, second for the Ganishka suck-suck of life in the capital. Ganishka was doing something directly dangerous to him. Probably the fifth angel not only is or the recharging, but also for stopping the traitor apostle instance (THIS IS STARTING TO SEEM THE MATRIX).
About Farneze, she’s not a normal human. She used to love pain, like Slan, she’s next to the protagonist, so she is having a freaking life adventure, and she is in love with Gutts, and he’s not, so I see a traitor’s reason in that. In what will end? Who knows, causality is a spiral as the Witch states. Probably God is just a human that knew that eons ago.
Also, how is possible that ALL the behelits have THE SAME FACE? And curiously, same with the dogs and horses that attacked Gutts escaping from the Holy Army (when I consider that just a normal spirit attack).
But remeber, probably I’m just wrong.
March 29th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
The timeline was done by the (rough) dates and hints Miura has given http://www.skullknight.net/encyclopedia/world/timeline/index.html
And as we know an eclipse doesnt happen everyday, the GH couldnt (maybe only Void, but not all 4 of them) of been those angels.
Maybe if Sk/Gaseric is like Gatts, the 4 angels could have been the GH before the GH. And SK killed them or something, and the new GH are stronger, thats why when SK tried to attack Void at the eclipse, he didnt get very far..
I dunno, i wish Miura would give us another clue :p
March 29th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
The link is fine but I would prefer the quotation of Miura giving the birthdates of the GH-members or the chapters mentioning these…
March 29th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
I think Skull Night is like guts, a survivor of an eclipse. But that’s just me. And I think Miura is going to work the God Hand in slowly, I mean he’s been making them show up every now and then, Slan’s troll intestine form, that one that was in plague rat form.
March 30th, 2008 at 4:36 am
Thana – Yeah i understand
we can’t know for sure or anything, i mean for all we know the god hand could have been born all together in some kind of massacre of bodies in a major eclipse. And SK was a survivor that way or something
One thing we’ll probably never find out is who the GH were before they became the GH, i’m curious :p
March 30th, 2008 at 7:01 am
Awww, I would like to know that… Was the first GH-member a human anyway? What kind of creature is that “God”? Maybe Miura tells us sometime
March 30th, 2008 at 7:25 am
I’m part of the crowd that would be quite happy if Berserk was only half way done. I don’t know if he’s just making this stuff up as he goes along with a general outline or what… but there’s TONS of story left to be told. I like the way he takes his time and dwells on the little details. Skull Knight’s story alone could be a friggen arc. Caska’s memory returning and then coming to grips with everything that happened and is happening is another arc’s worth of story. Not to mention the new interaction between Gutts and Her. I also agree that I’d like a little bit more on the generals surrounding Griffin. Can’t forget Zod‘s duels between like… everyone!
My opinion of Griffin was he was single minded when he started… but he grew to like the band of the hawk. After he was tortured and left by Gutts with pretty much his perfect world/dream destroyed. I’d say he was on the knifes edge and seduced by the offer. So after that long rant… I find the credits page to be a perfect reminder how far these characters have come. Griffin wasn’t evil… but became evil.
March 30th, 2008 at 7:28 am
Ugh and yes I know his names Griffith. I just spazed and wrote Griffin through out
March 30th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I think that that timeline could be outdated. Since mr.Miura has been developing this story for 20 years he could have made some changes- otherwise it would start bore him
P.
It would be really lame if mr.Miura would make the story this simple. I think he’s far beyond that level.
Here are one of my theories concerning the Skull Knight:
Gaiserick unites midland.
He witnesses an eclipse in Albion (as mentioned by Mozgus “once a holly man was tortured here by emperor Gaiserick, but he kept his faith and 4 angels came to save him”).Being the apostle’s enemy was not dear to him, so he was not sacrificed (just like the snail baron could not sacrifice Gutts when he was dying). Afterward he obtains a behelit and sacrifices his subjects at the Tower of Rebirth.
Now focus on the frame where princess Charlotte tells Gutts and co. his story – ok, he has a skull shaped helmet, but the was also a (smaller) lion/big cat on it, furthermore he wasn’t wearing a full plate armor but something more … barbaric. It is also mentioned that he loved figting. When you add it up-> Gaiserick could have became Zodd!
One of his subjects (a general, next heir to throne or just a loyal soldier) survived the Eclipse and began his quest for revenge.
He did not become an apostle though. The simplest way to prove that is the fact that he used the berserker armour – an apostle wouldn’t have to use it to hunt down other apostles(like Ganishka did to construct his dayspa). Furthermore he was friend with Flora (Shrieke’s mistress). And as far as I’m concerned a witch who used to go from village to village to help the needy would not become friends with someone who was evil enough to sacrifice people who were dear to him for power.
As for the armors shape – it could be symbolizing that he was so close to Gaiserick that he took his banner.
Still there so many variables in this equation that I’m not sure if even a single word I wrote is true.
p.s. I just realized that this is the first text I wrote in English for quite a long time so I’m probably butchering it, for which I’m very sorry (feel free to point out my errors).
May 11th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Come on man, the Skull Knight has to be the Supreme King of Midland and Void was being tortured like it shows him when God came down and helped him. Flora said that the Skull Knight did have the brand and besides, just like Guts got the brand from a god hand, a king would be very close to someone smart enough to become one of the god hand. The Tower where the mock eclipse happened is where Voids eclipse happened and Void’s mock eclipse happened where Griffith was turtored.
But what sucks the most is that the Skull Knight had to use his Sword Of Resonance, that took him like 1000 years to make and then he had to use it to save Guts, but its worth it. I just want to know who the Skull Knight knows that future and shit, maybe he is already with that Elf King on Elf Helm and thats explains how he knows that Guts is so important.